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can you screed over a timber floor

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Easy Screed can be poured on both the ground and first floor of timber-framed houses. As it is installed at a lesser thickness than standard screeds, it is weight-saving and therefore generally suited to first floor applications with underfloor heating.

Screed can be applied to structural concrete or to insulation to create a thin, level surface on which your wood floor can be installed. Once the screed has been laid, it can either be dragged level using a “screed” (the tool mentioned above) or you could use a self-leveling screed.Apr 19, 2012

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Can you put wood flooring over a screed?

For best results, screeds should be applied in warm, dry conditions.When it comes to installing your wood flooring over a screed, there are various fitting options depending upon whether you have selected a solid wood or an engineered wood floor. Solid wood floors can be nailed on to battens or glued-down directly to screed subfloors.

Can you install concrete over wood flooring?

Installing concrete over wood flooring can be an easy way to hide damaged floors. Concrete floors provide a unique look that can't be matched by other flooring materials. The material is versatile enough to be installed over a variety of subfloors as long as they are prepared properly.

What is screed flooring used for?

Screed is commonly used in wood flooring installation projects. The ideal way of ensuring your subfloor is level and smooth, screeds are relatively easy and quick to lay. Screed is the term used to describe the finish which is put on a concrete floor to make it level and stable.

What is the best way to level a subfloor?

The ideal way of ensuring your subfloor is level and smooth, screeds are relatively easy and quick to lay. Screed is the term used to describe the finish which is put on a concrete floor to make it level and stable.

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Can you concrete over wooden floor?

Overlaying concrete over wood floors can hide damaged boards. It also works on other surfaces, such as cracked concrete or other non-wood floorings. Because concrete is easier to maintain, customizable, and cheap, many homeowners opt to replace their outdoor flooring with it.

Can you use self-leveling compound on timber floors?

Information ARDITEX NA. ARDITEX NA is formulated with excellent adhesion designed to work perfectly UNDER a damp proof membrane. Also used to pre-level existing timber floors prior to the installation of timber sheeting for a stable base for new floor coverings.

Can you use self-leveling concrete on wood floors?

Wood floors need to be primed before covering them with self leveler. The floor will be covered with water-saturated leveler, which will cause the wood to swell. It will shrink back down when it dries, which could cause cracks in the underlayment and tiles above.

Can you put Levelling compound on floorboards?

Levelling compound can be used on a variety of substrates including concrete, screed, existing tiles, and timber floors.

How do you level an existing timber floor?

0:368:55How to level a wooden floor - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipYou need to smooth down any raised or uneven areas use a belt sander or orbital sander with quartzMoreYou need to smooth down any raised or uneven areas use a belt sander or orbital sander with quartz paper make sure you wear gloves goggles.

What flooring can I put over floorboards?

Tiling over floorboards is possible with the use of plywood or backer boards. In short, a layer of 'board' over your floorboards will keep the surface you're tiling strong and sturdy, and help you minimise any movement from your old floorboards.

Can you screed on top of plywood?

If you've got a plywood subfloor, like many buildings do, you can leave it in place and apply self-leveling concrete directly on top of it. Once the plywood subfloor is covered, just apply the finish you want to achieve the desired look.

How do you install concrete over wood subfloor?

0:223:15Installing a Concrete Floor over Wood - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipAnd provide some structural rigidity. And reinforcing. You can also cover the floor with roofingMoreAnd provide some structural rigidity. And reinforcing. You can also cover the floor with roofing paper first and then staple the metal lath through the roofing paper into the subfloor.

How do you level old hardwood floors?

Use a long straightedge, such as a long spirit level or a straight board held on its edge. Starting at one side of the room, swing the straightedge from one reference point across the floor and mark the high and low areas (any deviations greater than 3/16 inch) with a pencil.

Can levelling compound used on wood?

Floor leveling compounds are actually made to go over concrete. Most will work on wood as well, but it's important to verify that the compound purchased will. Always buy more than needed, as the pour must be done completely to ensure that it levels.

How do you level a suspended timber floor?

3:1831:12Tommy's Trade Secrets - How To Level a Buckled Floor - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipArea. Basically it's a lot easier to use and Jamie's up the other Lane what they're doing is floodMoreArea. Basically it's a lot easier to use and Jamie's up the other Lane what they're doing is flood basically Fanny level with the existing floor.

Can you screed over chipboard?

Simply put, no. Remove the chipboard before laying a screed. Additionally, I wouldn't ever lay tile directly onto chipboard because of the movement with temperature changes that would likely cause the tiles to crack.

Aaron flooring Well-Known Member

Hi guys, quick question. We have been to view a job, with a solid wood floor which has been stuck. The owner wants Amtico putting down. How would you prepare the floor for the Amtico? Can it be screeded?

Aaron flooring Well-Known Member

What about a 6mm ply on top instead? If took up would need to build up 18mm due to skirting/kitchen etc all on top of the wood

Aaron flooring Well-Known Member

Out of interest, what is the reason for not being able to put a 6mm ply down over the top?

Aaron flooring Well-Known Member

I spoke to Ardex tech support and tilemaster tech support, both said the wood can't be screeded directly, however if you put a 6mm ply over the top it would be ok. When I said I'd been advised that the wood floor needs to be taken up as wood floors need to breath, they then advised its always best to take it up

Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

You can't lay any resilient or impervious floor coverings over wood flooring glued or not. If the wood cant breath moisture wil build up in it with nowhere to go and cause it to swell up and buckle.

diggy New Member

My client wants underfloor heating upstairs (joists), wants the levels to remain as close to current as possible.

How long should I leave screed on a floor?

One way to cure the screed is to place it under polyethylene sheeting, sealed at the edges. Leave the screed undisturbed for at least 7 days, or longer if average temperatures fall below 10ºC (50ºF) in a 24 hour period.

How do I level a screed board?

Level the screed with a straightedge. Once you have laid enough screed, place a screed board or a very straight piece of lumber over the battens. Push the straightedge across the surface of the screed in a side-to-side sawing motion. Tilt the lumber slightly so the corner forms a cutting edge to make the screed level.

What is unbonded screed?

An unbonded screed sits on top of plastic sheets instead of directly on the concrete below. This protects your floor from moisture in the subfloor, and from settling and other issues in the main structure. However, unbonded screed is more likely to curl. Reinforcing can help with this problem, as described below.

How long does screed take to dry?

Avoid vehicle traffic and do not install floor for at least three weeks. As a rough rule of thumb, the screed takes one day to dry for each mm (0.04") of depth.

How to mix screed mix?

If you would prefer to mix your own, try this simple recipe: Select clean sand with a variety of grain sizes. Combine 4 parts sand with 1 part Portland cement.

How do I cover a concrete floor?

Cover the floor in plastic sheeting. Lay down polyethylene or PVC sheets to separate the concrete from the screed layer. Overlap sheets by at least 20 cm (7.9") and tape them together. Fold the sheets up 10 cm (3.9") onto all walls and pillars.

How wide is a screeding batten?

Wet the batten so you can remove it more easily after screeding. Set the battens down to divide the room into strips 3 to 4 meters (10–13 ft) wide. The length of each strip is not important. Use a spirit level to confirm that each batten is level along the top, and level with adjacent battens in the room.

hvendlor

I'm trying to level a kitchen floor, half is floorboard over joist and the other half is asphalt on top of concrete.

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koolpc Screwfix Select

I would never use it over floorboards. Only over a concrete floor myself.

Dave Marques Member

That 3240 is recommended by Uponor for their low profile Minitec ufh system. It only needs 3mm above the pipes and NO insulation underneath.

koolpc Screwfix Select

Imagine the self levelling compound cracking when weight applied to it because the boards below it move and bend etc!

DIYDave. Screwfix Select

No major bounce in floor and all solid, but old boards, been up and down several times over history of house for plumbing/electrics so not pretty !

wiggy Screwfix Select

Sounds like you have made a real bodge job of it. You could fire some screws in to the joists in suspect areas

Jord86 Screwfix Select

I actually had to use the proper Mapei primer (he said there was no need) and he then “painted” the plywood with the leveller. I said PAINTED because he used 5 25kg bags for 36sqm.

How much does it cost to build a simple floor?

Prices for the project can climb to $25 to $30 per square foot.

How thick is a concrete overlay?

Thin concrete overlays, which are usually 3/8 to 1/2 inch thick, can cover existing concrete slabs or other approved subfloors, including wood. They also serve as self-leveling underlayments for skim coats or microtoppings, which are even thinner.

What does it mean when you hear a squeak on a floor?

Loose boards should be fastened securely. If you hear a squeak when you walk on the floor, that means the flooring is not firmly attached to the floor joists. Old House Journal provides a step-by-step guide to fixing wood floors. Concrete is a rigid material that must be installed over rigid materials.

How long does it take for concrete to cure?

Once the concrete cures, usually in about 24 hours, the floor can be stained and/or simply polished to the desired gloss.

Can you use particleboard on concrete?

When it comes to solid wood, both strip and plank flooring are acceptable as long as they are in good condition. A particleboard subfloor is not recommended for a concrete finished floor. Concrete floors provide an eclectic, loft-inspired look. Image Credit: Stephen Paul for Hunker.

Can concrete floors be used to cool a house?

The new floor will last for as long as the house stands. In warm climates, concrete can help cool the house. Concrete is easy to keep clean once it is properly installed.

Is concrete unforgiving?

Concrete is unforgiving when items are dropped on it. Breakable items will break. The floor itself may chip when heavy items hit it. A concrete floor is permanent, even thin concrete overlays. It is difficult, expensive and messy to remove an interior concrete installation. It is even difficult to change the color.

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