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does a 240v gfci breaker need a neutral

by Quinten Dare MD Published 3 years ago Updated 2 years ago
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Does 240V need a neutral?

You don't need a neutral for most 240v applications. To be code compliant (and you should) however you need to have a 15-amp rated 240v plug. You also need to make sure the breaker on that circuit is 15a, not 20a. That plug is the 6-15R, as shown in this chart (left, row marked 6): https://img.greentechheat.com/nema-plug-chart.png

What wire should you use for 240V?

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Is 120V or 240V better?

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Is neutral necessary for a sandpaper?

No neutral necessary unless the manufacture requires it.

Is GFCI protection necessary for a spa?

Are you supplying a spa or just using a spa panel as a disconnect for this heater you gave no other details about? GFCI protection may not even be necessary depending on what you are feeding. That said I think it is common to have 60 amp GFCI breakers with no neutral - you can't supply loads that utilize the neutral with such breakers as the neutral current will throw off balance and make them trip - but that will not be a problem for a straight 240 volt load like you have either.

Does article 680 require GFCI protection?

jstjohnz said: It's an electric (resistance) heater for a pool. I don't think article 680 actually requires GFCI protection, but these heating elements do corrode and fail in a way that can put leakage current in the water, and if that happens it trips the GFCI.

Does square D GFCI work without line neutral?

Might make more sense, but that is not the way Square D GFCI's work, those are the only ones I have tested myself - the GFCI protection does not work without the line side neutral being connected. Though the breaker contacts will still close and let the ungrounded lines through if there is no connection to line side neutral - you just don't have GFCI protection anymore.

Do I need to disconnect a GFCI breaker?

You will need to pull the neutral in the breaker panel like you said. Click to expand... Yes but still need a disconnect and the "spa panel" is quite a bit cheaper than a QO 60A 2-pole GFCI breaker.

Do GFCI breakers work with unbalanced loads?

240V GFCI breakers will work properly with unbalanced loads. Many spas for example have a combination of 120V and 240V loads.

Do European RCDs use relay coils?

European RCDs may use only passive (relay coil) components. Click to expand... I'm speculating here, but I think it would make more sense to power the internal electronics from both hot leads, as in L1 to neutral and L2 to neutral, so that the GFCI will function if you have power on either L1 or L2.

Does a straight 240 need a neutral?

A straight 240 does not need a neutral. A 120/240 needs the neutral. A product for each need. No conspiracy.

Is GFCI ground UL?

Yup, and label it 'GFCI Protected / No Equipment Ground'. And that's not even an indirect Code requirement via UL... that's a direct Code requirement.

Does a GFCI have a load neutral?

Click to expand... A breaker doesn't, but a GFCI must have load terminals for all the current-carrying conductors. This is why a 120V GFCI has a load neutral and some but not all 240V GFCIs have them. 240v GFCI which lack a load neutral indeed can't be used with loads that return any portion of the current on the neutral.

Do 240V breakers have a neutral wire?

Some 240v loads (dryers, stoves) are both line-to-line and line-to-neutral. However, some 240v breakers do not have a load terminal for a neutral wire. Will that still work with things like dryers and stoves?

Do 240V breakers have a load terminal?

However, some 240v breakers do not have a load terminal for a neutral wire.

Does a ground fault circuit interrupter give good protection?

When the dryer or stove, etc. has only a 3 wire cord and has neutral connected to the frame (some older models) then a ground fault circuit interrupter will not give as good protection and in some cases you will get a hard to find GFCI tripping problem.

Can 240V GFCI be used with load neutral?

240v GFCI which lack a load neutral indeed can't be used with loads that return any portion of the current on the neutral.

What happens if a shared neutral is added before GFCI?

A shared neutral will trip the breaker. ie if a neutral return is added before the GFCI when somebody adds a socket.

Why do you need a neutral breaker?

Just like a balance scale as long as you add or subtract the same from each side it stays in balance but spill a little and it goes out of balance. This is why the neutral needs to be connected to the GFCI breaker. So all things can be monitored.

How does a GFCI transformer work?

In a GFCI the two (or three) current-carrying conductors are run through a "current transformer" (a toriod transformer, if you're interested). This transformer converts the net current in the conductors to a voltage that is sensed by the GFCI electronics.

What voltage does a 20A breaker run?

20A breaker runs the heater only (pure 240v load).

How does a GFCI work?

My rudimentary understanding of GFCI devices says that GFCIs work by comparing the current going out in the hot to the current returning in the neutral — difference? = ground fault = trip.

How many lines does 240V come from?

Thing to remember is the 240volt comes from two 120volt lines. These lines are 180 degrees out of sync. Think +120 and -120volt at the same time, this equals 240volt.

Can a GFCI split current?

With a two-pole GFCI two hots and the neutral run through the transformer. Current can be split in any fashion between the three conductors and it will still cancel out if there's no leakage to ground. If the neutral isn't connected then that wire is effectively ignored by the transformer (since there'll never be current in it) and the current between the two hots is compared.

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1.240v GFCI work with no neutral - Mike Holt's Forum

Url:https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/240v-gfci-work-with-no-neutral.14844/

27 hours ago  · This is why you must wire a two pole GFCI breaker that is intended to serve both 120 and 240 volt loads with a neutral from the load neutral terminal to the load as it must flow …

2.Neutral requirement in 240V GFCI disconnect | Mike …

Url:https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/neutral-requirement-in-240v-gfci-disconnect.122557/

12 hours ago  · A "spa panel" with a 60A GFCI breaker is being used as a disconnect for a 240V heater. The heater is 240V only so no neutral needed. I assume (but not sure) that I need a …

3.240v GFCI and line-to-neutral loads - DIY Home …

Url:https://www.diychatroom.com/threads/240v-gfci-and-line-to-neutral-loads.718583/

20 hours ago  · Answer for USA, Canada and countries running a 60 Hz supply service. Some 240 volt appliances - for example some air conditioners, clothes dryers, or ranges - may need a …

4.Do GFCI breakers need a dedicated neutral? - Quora

Url:https://www.quora.com/Do-GFCI-breakers-need-a-dedicated-neutral

35 hours ago The GFCI will work if the load doesn’t require a neutral. For instance, if you have an older 240V load, you will notice that it doesn’t have a neutral wire. This is why manufacturers make GFCIs …

5.Can you use a GFCI breaker without a neutral? - Quora

Url:https://www.quora.com/Can-you-use-a-GFCI-breaker-without-a-neutral

35 hours ago  · How does a 240V GFCI breaker work without a neutral? On 2P 15A to 50A the GFI breaker will work with or without a load neutral wire. However, if there is no load neutral …

6.240v GFCI - how does it work? - Fine Homebuilding

Url:https://www.finehomebuilding.com/forum/240v-gfci-how-does-it-work

18 hours ago  · A breaker doesn't, but a GFCI must have load terminals for all the current-carrying conductors. This is why a 120V GFCI has a load neutral and some but not all 240V GFCIs …

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